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	<title>Comments on: Craig&#8217;s List: Flakes, Scammers, and Ho&#8217;s</title>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweekdiary.com/2008/09/20/craigs-list-flakes-scammers-and-hos/comment-page-1/#comment-3773</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! That website is such a laugh riot. Ok, I just wasted an hour reading the stuff on that site - curses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! That website is such a laugh riot. Ok, I just wasted an hour reading the stuff on that site &#8211; curses!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 10:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, I think the 80/20 rule applies: 80% of the people who contact me are flakes, the rest actually show up and usually buy. Sites like www.dontevenreply.com go to show this is just a sick game for people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, I think the 80/20 rule applies: 80% of the people who contact me are flakes, the rest actually show up and usually buy. Sites like <a href="http://www.dontevenreply.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dontevenreply.com</a> go to show this is just a sick game for people.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad it&#039;s not just me. I can&#039;t believe how disrespectful and rude people are. I&#039;ve held things for people despite other buyers inquiring about my items, and then they don&#039;t bother to show. I think I&#039;ll just say first come, first serve. No appointments. If you can pick it up first, it&#039;s yours. I&#039;ve had 2 flakes today and 2 more during the week. It&#039;s so annoying! I made the mistake of telling them how to get to my house. I guess it wasn&#039;t the safest idea. I didn&#039;t tell them which apartment though. From now on, I&#039;m just going to have them call when they&#039;re on their way, and then I&#039;ll give directions. Maybe that will reduce the number of flakes? It&#039;s so tempting to send them a nastygram, but they all have my address! Ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s not just me. I can&#8217;t believe how disrespectful and rude people are. I&#8217;ve held things for people despite other buyers inquiring about my items, and then they don&#8217;t bother to show. I think I&#8217;ll just say first come, first serve. No appointments. If you can pick it up first, it&#8217;s yours. I&#8217;ve had 2 flakes today and 2 more during the week. It&#8217;s so annoying! I made the mistake of telling them how to get to my house. I guess it wasn&#8217;t the safest idea. I didn&#8217;t tell them which apartment though. From now on, I&#8217;m just going to have them call when they&#8217;re on their way, and then I&#8217;ll give directions. Maybe that will reduce the number of flakes? It&#8217;s so tempting to send them a nastygram, but they all have my address! Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had the whole &quot;craigslist flake&quot; happen to me tonight.  I was trying to give away a free couch rather than putting it by the curb for the scavengers.  I received 6 emails in a little over a day.

Examples:

1)Hello, saw the ad , please let me know if this is still avaliable .... i can pick it up after work about 5pm? Please let me know thanks

2)Still available?  Where at in ---?

3)int in sofa call ---- thank u

4)Hello,
 Is your couch still available?? If so, I am interested and willing to pick it up asap.
 
5)WHere Are you loCated? call ------
Thanks in advance

This is the first time I have used craigslist, so I responded to each of these by listing my cell number telling them to call to arrange a time. 

Out of the five above, I received 3 no calls, 1 hang up in my face, and one waiting game that ruined my evening.  I call the guy, he says he&#039;s interested, sets up a time, asks directions to the area and will call for specific directions when he gets close.  He no shows, I call, he calls back and says he is still coming.  An hour and a half goes by...nothing.  What I don&#039;t understand is why he called back if he wasn&#039;t coming - he could have flaked after my first call.  

I don&#039;t get why people do this.  Are they for real or are they playing some kind of game.  &quot;I&#039;ll come get it ASAP&quot; only to no-show.  I guess I&#039;ll go back to the Recycler from now on.  You can&#039;t even give away free stuff!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had the whole &#8220;craigslist flake&#8221; happen to me tonight.  I was trying to give away a free couch rather than putting it by the curb for the scavengers.  I received 6 emails in a little over a day.</p>
<p>Examples:</p>
<p>1)Hello, saw the ad , please let me know if this is still avaliable &#8230;. i can pick it up after work about 5pm? Please let me know thanks</p>
<p>2)Still available?  Where at in &#8212;?</p>
<p>3)int in sofa call &#8212;- thank u</p>
<p>4)Hello,<br />
 Is your couch still available?? If so, I am interested and willing to pick it up asap.</p>
<p>5)WHere Are you loCated? call &#8212;&#8212;<br />
Thanks in advance</p>
<p>This is the first time I have used craigslist, so I responded to each of these by listing my cell number telling them to call to arrange a time. </p>
<p>Out of the five above, I received 3 no calls, 1 hang up in my face, and one waiting game that ruined my evening.  I call the guy, he says he&#8217;s interested, sets up a time, asks directions to the area and will call for specific directions when he gets close.  He no shows, I call, he calls back and says he is still coming.  An hour and a half goes by&#8230;nothing.  What I don&#8217;t understand is why he called back if he wasn&#8217;t coming &#8211; he could have flaked after my first call.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get why people do this.  Are they for real or are they playing some kind of game.  &#8220;I&#8217;ll come get it ASAP&#8221; only to no-show.  I guess I&#8217;ll go back to the Recycler from now on.  You can&#8217;t even give away free stuff!!</p>
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		<title>By: FlakeMaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlakeMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consult the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flakelist.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FlakeList&lt;/a&gt; to help you avoid flakes! Or you can submit your own and help others from getting flaked too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consult the <a href="http://www.flakelist.org" rel="nofollow">FlakeList</a> to help you avoid flakes! Or you can submit your own and help others from getting flaked too.</p>
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		<title>By: Janna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I agree with Kelley that Craig&#039;s List is a hit or miss endeavor. I guess you just had more than your fair share of bad luck. I listed several items when my family was preparing to move, and we were able to sell 90% of them within 2-3 days. We did have a few semi-flakes who called about my husband&#039;s motorcycle; they wanted us to drop the already low price, or deliver it to them, etc. But we also got 10-12 serious callers. Within 4 hours of listing, the bike was carted off to a new home for our asking price.

Sorry your experience was such a negative one. If you ever want to see humanity at its lowest common denominator, take a look at their &#039;Rants&#039; section. *shiver*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I agree with Kelley that Craig&#8217;s List is a hit or miss endeavor. I guess you just had more than your fair share of bad luck. I listed several items when my family was preparing to move, and we were able to sell 90% of them within 2-3 days. We did have a few semi-flakes who called about my husband&#8217;s motorcycle; they wanted us to drop the already low price, or deliver it to them, etc. But we also got 10-12 serious callers. Within 4 hours of listing, the bike was carted off to a new home for our asking price.</p>
<p>Sorry your experience was such a negative one. If you ever want to see humanity at its lowest common denominator, take a look at their &#8216;Rants&#8217; section. *shiver*</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Tate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had decent luck with Craigslist as both a buyer and a seller.  One key to screening flakes is a &quot;no holds&quot; policy.  Tell them &quot;first person to show up at my house with money in their hand gets it - NO EXCEPTIONS&quot;.  This accomplishes a couple of things: it lets you stop worrying about whether someone&#039;s going to show up on time or not, and it motivates the buyer to get to you as quickly as possible so they don&#039;t miss out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had decent luck with Craigslist as both a buyer and a seller.  One key to screening flakes is a &#8220;no holds&#8221; policy.  Tell them &#8220;first person to show up at my house with money in their hand gets it &#8211; NO EXCEPTIONS&#8221;.  This accomplishes a couple of things: it lets you stop worrying about whether someone&#8217;s going to show up on time or not, and it motivates the buyer to get to you as quickly as possible so they don&#8217;t miss out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley Mitchell</title>
		<link>http://www.fourhourworkweekdiary.com/2008/09/20/craigs-list-flakes-scammers-and-hos/comment-page-1/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I sold a minivan on Craigslist.  The first response I got was someone wanting to trade me their souped-up dune buggy for my $5,000 Town &amp; Country.  But I did sell the van very quickly to a nice couple.

My carpenter husband often looks for power tools on Craigslist and comes across ones that are dirt cheap and can only suppose that they are stolen.

It&#039;s just hit or miss I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I sold a minivan on Craigslist.  The first response I got was someone wanting to trade me their souped-up dune buggy for my $5,000 Town &amp; Country.  But I did sell the van very quickly to a nice couple.</p>
<p>My carpenter husband often looks for power tools on Craigslist and comes across ones that are dirt cheap and can only suppose that they are stolen.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just hit or miss I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: shris</title>
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		<dc:creator>shris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

We have had amazing good luck with Craigslist. We have never had a flake. We have sold an oak desk ($250, though it took months of reposts), purchased a china cabinet, a large home office desk with rolling file cabinet, some cabinets for the garage, and a cheap kids&#039; dresser, given away some fencing, purchased lawn equipment, sold lawn equipment, and a whole bunch of other bits and bobs that we needed to get rid of.

We love Craigslist. Of course, we are near a major metropolitan area, so there&#039;s not only a great deal of variety in offerings, there&#039;s a huge number of buyers, too. The buyers don&#039;t mess around because they know there&#039;s a hundred more right behind them. In fact, for decent items cheap, we usually get a call within an hour and a pickup the same day--usually with cash in hand and often no quibbling on price. When we list items for free, they&#039;re often gone within an hour of listing (on a weekend afternoon).

For clothes, I donate to Goodwill. I might take my books there too if I can&#039;t sell them on Craigslist or if I don&#039;t need credits on paperbackswap. But everything else has a market on Craigslist and we love it to pieces.

Sorry you haven&#039;t had the same good fortune--I do see posts on Craigslist that warn buyers about this or that bad behavior that won&#039;t be acceptable, but I haven&#039;t had to do that for any of our listings.

shris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>We have had amazing good luck with Craigslist. We have never had a flake. We have sold an oak desk ($250, though it took months of reposts), purchased a china cabinet, a large home office desk with rolling file cabinet, some cabinets for the garage, and a cheap kids&#8217; dresser, given away some fencing, purchased lawn equipment, sold lawn equipment, and a whole bunch of other bits and bobs that we needed to get rid of.</p>
<p>We love Craigslist. Of course, we are near a major metropolitan area, so there&#8217;s not only a great deal of variety in offerings, there&#8217;s a huge number of buyers, too. The buyers don&#8217;t mess around because they know there&#8217;s a hundred more right behind them. In fact, for decent items cheap, we usually get a call within an hour and a pickup the same day&#8211;usually with cash in hand and often no quibbling on price. When we list items for free, they&#8217;re often gone within an hour of listing (on a weekend afternoon).</p>
<p>For clothes, I donate to Goodwill. I might take my books there too if I can&#8217;t sell them on Craigslist or if I don&#8217;t need credits on paperbackswap. But everything else has a market on Craigslist and we love it to pieces.</p>
<p>Sorry you haven&#8217;t had the same good fortune&#8211;I do see posts on Craigslist that warn buyers about this or that bad behavior that won&#8217;t be acceptable, but I haven&#8217;t had to do that for any of our listings.</p>
<p>shris</p>
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